My bad, for buying online without listening first. Everyone's sound perception is different. To me, these are too muddy. I'm not a fan of loads of bass, as some are. When the bass is turned all the way down, to me it feels about what I consider mid, not low. But I know that a lot of people love their bass. To the "muddy", I did actually look to see if maybe there was a clear film that needed to be removed from the speakers. They just sound a bit off to me. Almost like listening through ...