Love the design & quality. I have a 36 waist (in most pants) but have a larger measurement (vanity sizing??) so I ordered the XXL based on the measurement. They fit - But like most, they stretch a bit after a few hours so a belt was really needed. Also learned not to put phone/keys/wallet in pants or risk exposing myself. I was about to order the smaller size, then realized that paying the additional postage wasn't worth it.