Took a punt on these as I usually go for Fox, TLD or Endura. Let me tell you, these trousers are superior to all those brands honestly! Fabric and fit is excellent and the stitching is bombproof, had a major spill on a pump track debacle last week and these trousers held up no problem, cant say the same for other brands that have failed straight away after the 1st bail, still skint my knee though :) All I can say is you will not be disappointed with the quality of this kit.