3rd pair of CNC and still not disappointed. You can't go wrong with black. I can wear these to the gym, to work, for coffee, or with boots when it gets cold. The laser cut really doesn't just ''stop'' at the gym. I can't get over how comfortable they are. They stay in place, literally, no matter what exercise I am doing. No ride up, no ride down. I'm 5'8'', 185, and wear a Large. This pair seemed to fit more snug than my Empowered V4 2.0, but not so much that I would need to size up.