I am applying the patch daily, faithfully and I also use a knee sleeve for support. My knee feels better, but occasionally I get some twinges of a sharp pain, like bone on bone. But, I can walk unaided on a golf course, do yard work and wearing a fitbit, I log 10,000 steps at least 4 to 5 days a week. At 71 years old, I guess I'm doing better than some.