Well, so far I am just using by itself. I am about to order the stack that goes with it. Doing this month by month, on a strict budget so can order only 4 weeks at a time. I have lost 4-5 lbs, without the losing of muscle. People say I look different, so they are my filter, I don’t tell them what I am taking, so I get a true answer or compliment. I have taken my before pic, and at the end of 8 weeks I will take another pic to show. This stuff works, but you still have to put in the work. It’s no...